Netflix's Tim Dillon: International Students Need to "Shut Up" and "Fall in Line"
"I didn't vote on letting any of these people into the country," Dillon said of the students being disappeared by the Trump administration. "No one did."
Comedian and free speech lover Tim Dillon unleashed yet another series of astonishingly racist rants on his podcast today, first lambasting Snow White star Rachel Zegler for her pro-Palestine comments and later critiquing Rumeysa Ozturk, the Tufts University graduate student disappeared by the Trump administration last week. Stressing that he disapproves of the government deporting people for their speech, Dillon explained that he’s nonetheless anti-immigration and believes people like Ozturk need to respect American culture. “When you import people from all over the world who don't respect the culture of an area and don't care about it, it doesn't mean anything to them, they are only there to suck money out,” he said. “There has to be a non-racist way to say, ‘stop being different.’ There has to be a non-racist way to say, ‘Enough with your own bullshit. Fall in line.’"
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Elsewhere in the episode, Dillon seemed to lament that whereas students are being punished for anti-Israel speech, the US government never punished anyone for speech about white people. “By the way, remember when for four years you could say anything about white people?” he asked. “Anything! ‘Kill ‘em!' ‘How about we genocide the whites?’ ‘Fuck white men, they should die. Let's deny them healthcare.’ But there was a few campus protests for like a month and now they're like deporting students. But there was years and years of shitting on whitey and then no one really cared, no one’s getting deported.”
Dillon, who hosted JD Vance before the election and more recently sat down for a conversation with Steve Bannon, also revealed that he is part of a forthcoming Netflix special recorded at the Comedy Mothership, Joe Rogan’s club in Austin. Let there be no mistake, then, about what Netflix is continuing to invest in: an explicit white nationalist and his community of white nationalists, anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, and all-around racists.
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Excerpts from today’s episode follow below. I’ll note upfront that, everything else aside, Dillon is wrong on the facts about Ozturk: the Trump administration has not provided any evidence that she was involved in campus protests (not that it should be grounds for deportation if she was). Rather, the State Department cited an op-ed she coauthored for Tufts’ student newspaper last year, per CNN, “in which she criticized Tufts’ response to a student government group’s call for the university to divest from companies with ties to Israel because of the conflict in Gaza, among other demands.”
Shut up. In the thing. You are Snow White. You are not going to save Gaza. I am not saying she's wrong about everything she says. I don't know what she—I don't care. But you are not going to do it. You are just Snow White and it's fake. You are actually not even her. She doesn't exist. You don't have any powers to save these people who are hurting. And this idea that you need to speak up, it's not. You don't. You actually don't. You can just shut the fuck up. You can keep your mouth shut immediately.
That's what I would say. I would say the movie's coming out now, and I would get everyone in an office and I would say, "Hi. So we spent all this movie on Snow White. We spent all this money on this movie, Snow White, and it's about to come out. And if you open your mouth at all about Gaza, okay? Or about trans suicide, I'm gonna come and I'm going to kill you. I'm gonna come to your house. I'm gonna kill you. Do you understand that? I'm gonna come to your house and I'll kill you. If you talk about trans kids hanging themself or Gaza in the middle of the Snow White rollout, the—here's what I want you to talk about: ‘I love the movie. It's beautiful. What a story. And I'm so glad we get to retell it and reintroduce it to a whole new generation of children.' And then I know you're going to want to say more. I know you're going to want to say more and you're going to go, 'And speaking of children,' and I'm gonna go, 'Shut up. Shut up.' 'Speaking of children,' shut up!
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All right. "Tufts University graduate student grabbed off the street by federal immigration officers." This is part of this new push to disappear these people that were participating in these campus protests. Let's take a look at this. I'm not for this. I also am not for, I wasn't—no one asked. I didn't vote on letting any of these people into the country. No one did, by the way. But I'm certainly not for removing people that have a differing opinion. That is free speech. I don't think that's the right way to go. Do I think it's a problem that we have a lot of foreign students in America and we don't care about the American ones? Yes, absolutely, I do. But let's watch this disappearance.
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Is this what people voted for when they elected Trump, to have a country taking orders from Israel? I don't think so. And now, again, I'm sure me and this woman would disagree on lots of things, and I am very, very much a proponent of strict tight immigration controls. But she's a legal US resident. She participated in pro-Palestinian protests as a legal US resident. "Her arrest follows the White House's crackdown on what it has classified as antisemitism on US campuses." What is this? And does anyone feel uncomfortable with this? Does anyone feel weird that antisemitism can now get you deported if you are a legal US citizen?
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If you think Israel has too much influence in our country. Is this helping correct that belief? Asking, just throwing it out there. Would this be the way, if people say to you, "Hey, Israel runs America through donors," and you say, "that's silly and absurd and ridiculous," does this happening make people more or less, do they dig their heels into that belief more or less that? By the way, remember when for four years you could say anything about white people? Anything! "Kill 'em!" "How about we genocide the whites?" "Fuck white men, they should die. Let's deny them healthcare."
But there was a few campus protests for like a month and now they're deporting students. But there was years and years of shitting on whitey and then no one really cared. No one's getting deported. What about the people that said negative things about, I don't know, other countries?
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I'm a gay person. If someone was homophobic, I wouldn't want them deported. Is that grounds for deportation? If someone said, "I hate gay people," I'd say, okay, but is that grounds for them to be deported? Doesn't this feel like it's going to a bad place? Does it feel good? Does it feel good? It feels a little bit like we are doing this at the behest of billionaire Israeli donors. No? Yes? Perhaps?
I support Israel's right to exist. I don't agree with a lot of these kids at the colleges with a lot of what they're saying. I think they're silly. They're kids. Some of them have some points, but a lot of them are saying things that I too would disagree with. The colonization crap and the blobbity blue and the this and the that and stolen land and the land acknowledgement and America's this and that. I don't have any time for that. I don't have any time for that. This land was stolen, fair and square. You steal it back, idiot. It's the way land is transferred. It's called stealing it. How do you think land, people get it? You steal it.
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So the point is we got to just stop with the nonsense. I probably hate that bitch. Not even for political views. I don't like most people. I just think—and who's the other guy? Mahmoud Khalil? I'm anti-immigration. I'm young Bannon. That's my rap name in the underground scene. But I think we need to chill it out. Let's get Americans up. Everyone's up? Everyone's not up. Lots of people are down and we got to get them. I'm not for bringing—but look at this bitch. Am I scared of this bitch? Let's get that up. I don't love—I mean I don't. We're deporting her?
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...When you import people from all over the world who don't respect the culture of an area and don't care about it, it doesn't mean anything to them, they are only there to suck money out, to put their kids in good prep schools that you cannot afford to send your kids to. And then the minute it gets harder for them to exist, they get up and leave. They get up and leave. So I think there has to be a recognition and an understanding of the fact that while we shouldn't be deporting the chick at Tufts, because that's not what we should be doing, we also need to let her know that she's not here to make America into whatever she thinks it should be.
That's the reality. Sorry. You're not here to do that. Just like my grandparents weren't here to do that when they came from Ireland. They were here to exist within a culture and do very well. And my grandfather was very successful in that culture because he came and embraced it. And that's what people should be doing to come here from other places. And she [Ozturk] kind of was embracing our culture, like throwing tantrums and kind of being somewhat fat. But I do think there's got to be a non-racist way to say, "Just shut up and be like us." There has to be a non-racist way to say, "You have to act like everyone else." There has to be a non-racist way to say, "Stop being different." There has to be a non-racist way to say, "Enough with your own bullshit. Fall in line."
